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I was thinking about the evaluations and how a lot of people who didn't make it there (and all the NotAtPDC people) would probably want to have there say about the sessions they watched online. It's the same session at the end of the day and potentially many more people than 245 or 15 to give feedback to the internal team. I'll probably end up blogging about some of the sessions I enjoyed but it's easier to be more honest if it's anonymous :)

For the record I downloaded and watched your IronRuby talk and enjoyed it. Excited about the VS integration the most but can't help but think that some people in the crowd might have got a lost quite quickly if they haven't had at least a brief look at Ruby already.

Awesome presentation, John. I watched it yesterday on Channel9 and I enjoyed (just like all your other presentations at the various PDCs). One question: the WEBRick hosting Sinatra was running on IronRuby or on CRuby?
Also, if you happen to know, what happened to the Sinatra project webpage? Where can I download a copy from? Thank you and congratulations!

I also enjoyed watching your presentation from the comforts of Channel9. I think the best take-away for me was having something to show some of my coworkers as a reason they might consider a language like Ruby. The unit testing and mocking demo was especially impressive.

Thanks!

@Chris: Totally agree about the external evaluations. I'm making this feedback through internal channels as well, so I'll make sure to add that to it. The feedback that we get from the actual conference evals is also anonymous, so I would imagine that it would be simple for the conference organizers to set up.

@Stefano: We're running WEBrick on IronRuby. I want to write a Rack adapter for one of our managed web servers (eg Chiron or Cassini). Ideally IIS, but not sure if the API supports the right semantics for that.

@Ryan: I'm going to spend some time packaging the demos up from here at PDC and next week at RubyConf and I'll post them up to our wiki when they're done.

The big problem with the session feedback is for non attendees.

More people will watch the videos online then actually attended the talk. Seems to me you should open up the evaluations to anyone with a live id. You could then divy nonattendees out from attendees as part of the back end if that was important.

From a speakers perspective I sure you believe the person who watches from the comfort of the desk at home is in the same position to provide valued feed back.

I attended PDC and after submitting my second eval during the conference, the website said to go to the information booth for my reward. It was one of those "I'm a PC" T-shirts.

I think two things really stand-out for me from Miguels talk:

1) The Microsoft "Language Mafia" crew all sitting front-row, center.

2) Brad Abrams yelling out "We LOVE Mono" after the talk.

It's a far, far cry from where Mono was 4-5 years ago in terms of acceptance by Microsoft and I think it's indicative of the changes that are occuring within Microsoft.

@Josh: Totally agree with the need to get online feedback as well.

@Jason: Wow. Good to see that we're doing something already. But I guess that wasn't publicized ahead of time. And hopefully it means that we can get more than just 2 evals as well :)

@Scott: Yep. One. Step. At. A. Time.

Great bokeh on that Phil & Jeff love affair photo. Nice one :)

I watched the PDC video a couple of times and now want to demo something similar with Sinatra and an internal work library. How do I duplicate your setup for PDC? I grabbed the source from RubyForge and built it using VS2008. I added the build/debug folder to my path and now when I run require 'sinatra' I get an error:

ironruby\src\IronRuby.Libraries\Builtins\Kernel
Ops.cs:400:in `require': no such file to load -- sinatra (LoadError)
from custom_require.rb:26:in `require'
from :0

Just watched your talk, it was good in general, I liked the many demos, much better than slides.

I was a bit put off by vim, the command line and the visual studio colors. It's a bit hard to read white on black when you are not used to it, especially in a video. Sometimes it seemed as if you were just trying to look cool. Most of the demos also was of the "cool" kind.

I would have liked to see more of how ironruby can help me in my day job of making professional products. It's also important to have a stable release when using it in a product that you sell for money, the daily builds don't work as well there.

Overall I would like to see a more professional approach, with real visual studio integration, help files etc, so that I can finally use it instead of just playing with it. (btw the link to the pdf documentation for dlr hosting is broken http://www.iunknown.com/2008/01/latest-dlr-host.html )

Finally I would like to say that I think the DLR is the most exciting thing to come out of MS for years.

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